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Post by boonechaser on Nov 27, 2014 14:59:02 GMT -5
Once again. FACT: Of course insurance companies want to offer competitive price's to their customer's but comprehensive losses due to deer claim's are simply adjusted into the insurance premium's. So it isn't a major deal to insurance companies as the client is paying for the exposure. One of the biggest lobbyist for a reduced deer herd in Indiana is FARM BUREAU INC. (Not a insurance company) who represent farmer's.
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Post by beehunter on Nov 27, 2014 15:14:24 GMT -5
My friend knows a guy that has a position in the DNR and he told my buddy that the deer herd is not managed for hunters. I think it's managed for auto ins companies and that's why you will never get the doe tags reduced, IMO. I dont Think Your Friend or Buddy Knows of what he Speaks The DNR employee that told him that was pretty high up the ladder. I am sure he knows more about it than you or me. |
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Post by boonechaser on Nov 27, 2014 15:27:02 GMT -5
I have been in the insurance business for 30 year's. Worked for Farm Bureau Insurance for 10 year's and now own my own independent agency. Meet on a regular basis with insurance company exec's and I can tell you that deer claim's are not a major concern to insurance companies.
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Post by boonechaser on Nov 27, 2014 15:33:09 GMT -5
My personal thought is that the IDNR manages the states deer herd to maximize $$$$$$$$ No.1. With that in mind there has to be some kind of hunter satisfaction or they would be hurting the bottom line.
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 27, 2014 17:16:56 GMT -5
Once again. FACT: Of course insurance companies want to offer competitive price's to their customer's but comprehensive losses due to deer claim's are simply adjusted into the insurance premium's. So it isn't a major deal to insurance companies as the client is paying for the exposure. One of the biggest lobbyist for a reduced deer herd in Indiana is FARM BUREAU INC. (Not a insurance company) who represent farmer's. THAT is what I keep trying to tell them.. Insurance companies do not absorb the cost of deer/vehicle collisions. They just pass on the cost to clients.. |
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Post by firstwd on Nov 27, 2014 19:10:58 GMT -5
Let's try this one time.
Farm Bureau Inc. is a huge player in the DNR/NRC regulation game.
Farm Bureau Inc. is a huge company with multiple divisions.
Farm Bureau Inc. Insurance which covers auto, home, and life insurance has nothing to do with the DRN/NRC regulation game.
Farm Bureau Inc. Farm and crop division which covers crop insurance, EPA regulations, and community relations DOES have a hand in the DNR/NRC regulation game.
The confusion is easily made, but changing the misconception is nearly impossible.
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Post by boonechaser on Nov 27, 2014 21:44:06 GMT -5
Yes you are correct. People hear Farm Bureau they assume it's Farm Bureau Ins., when it's usually Farm Bureau Inc.
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Post by beehunter on Nov 28, 2014 7:47:47 GMT -5
My friend knows a guy that has a position in the DNR and he told my buddy that the deer herd is not managed for hunters. I think it's managed for auto ins companies and that's why you will never get the doe tags reduced, IMO. I dont Think Your Friend or Buddy Knows of what he Speaks Not trying to be argumentative here but I just copied the following from the current DNR regulation book. It clearly states that the deer are not managed for hunters....maybe that DNR employee knew what they were talking about. Myth 1: The DNR manages deer for deer hunters only. Indiana law mandates that the DNR manage deer and all wildlife for everyone in Indiana. The goal of the white-tailed deer management and research program is to maximize hunting and viewing opportunities while maintaining a deer population at a level consistent with ecological, social, and economic values of all Indiana citizens. |
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 28, 2014 9:24:51 GMT -5
What it's saying is that the DNR manages deer for more than just hunters -- it looks at the overall picture. They clearly state in your quote that the do manage for hunters (along with others):
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 28, 2014 9:49:21 GMT -5
What it's saying is that the DNR manages deer for more than just hunters -- it looks at the overall picture. They clearly state in your quote that the do manage for hunters (along with others): + ..."while maintaining a deer population at a level consistent with ecological, social, and economic values of all Indiana citizens." Does the DNR take in consideration the number of deer/vehicle collisions in a county when establishing the number of bonus permits for that county? You can bet the ranch that they do. This whole "getting the numbers down" thingy started with a legislative bill proposed by Rep. Bill Friend wanting to double the counties quotas (buck and doe) in the top 30 deer/vehicle accidents. He said that it was from what he was hearing from his constituents, not from the insurance companies.. |
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