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Post by 36fan on Oct 27, 2014 21:35:08 GMT -5
My oldest son has to do a science fair project. We discussed projects and he decided he want to map arrow flight. His hypothesis was that arrows fly flat. Since we needed level ground to control that variable, we went to Honey Creek Tackle in Bargersville on Sunday to use their range for the experiment. His bow was sighted in at 10 yds, and then we shot 5 arrows at 4, 7 10, 13, 16, and 19 yds, respectively, and logged the data. He quickly realized his hypothesis was incorrect. After running the experiment twice, he wanted to shoot some of the 3-D targets. This at ~12 yds with him shooting ~35 lb draw weight: Pronghorn hunting Close-up of the dead pronghorn: Bear hunting: I'm thinking next year I may let him take his bow in the tree with us. He'll get the right lane, and I'll take the left lane.
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Post by dbd870 on Oct 28, 2014 6:15:47 GMT -5
Excellent; I'm going to have to make an indoor 3D shoot or 2 over the winter there.
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Post by span870 on Oct 28, 2014 7:59:25 GMT -5
The wife and the boy are doing theirs on what's the best way to peel hard boiled fresh eggs. Apparently there is a difference between store bought and fresh. Got me. Is this science fair season or something?
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Post by 36fan on Oct 28, 2014 10:34:51 GMT -5
The wife and the boy are doing theirs on what's the best way to peel hard boiled fresh eggs. Apparently there is a difference between store bought and fresh. Got me. Is this science fair season or something? Probably. 4th grade? You will have to enlighten me on how peeling hard boiled eggs is a science experiment. It sounds more like a demonstration - what is the variable and what is the hypothesis?
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Post by esshup on Oct 28, 2014 11:15:09 GMT -5
Last year a client borrowed my x-bow and some arrows (I have inserts where I can add weight inside the arrow).
Shooting at a fixed yardage, new foam target, did a heavier arrow increase penetration? (even tho it probably slowed down the arrow speed - he didn't want to borrow the chronograpy)
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Post by span870 on Oct 28, 2014 13:51:41 GMT -5
Yeah thats what I thought. Apparently fresh eggs are more difficult to peel than store bought. This is what I got out of it. The variable would be a eggs boiled than pulled out of water and peeled hot. Then you put some in ice water, some in all other concoctions. Your hypothesis would be egg x will peel easier than egg y and z and so forth all cooled by certain ways.Your control would be a store bought egg. There is actually a chemical in feed given to chickens that caused the whites to separate from the shell that free range chickens do not get as long as they aren't fed commercial food. Its all over my head. He's in sixth grade and this is a ten page, PowerPoint presentation with slides and demonstrations.
I made a volcano.
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Post by Sasquatch on Oct 28, 2014 19:03:52 GMT -5
That is very cool. That young man has a future in the deer killin' business.
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Post by 36fan on Oct 28, 2014 19:48:20 GMT -5
After tonight he has new nickname. We practicing in our backyard range tonight, and he wanted to set walnuts on the back of our 3-D deer target and shoot them off. We were having a competition to see who could hit the nut first ... it pretty much ended up being whoever got the shot off first won that round. The way he was busting the walnuts tonight, his nickname is now "Squirrel".
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Post by 36fan on Oct 28, 2014 19:55:37 GMT -5
Yeah thats what I thought. Apparently fresh eggs are more difficult to peel than store bought. This is what I got out of it. The variable would be a eggs boiled than pulled out of water and peeled hot. Then you put some in ice water, some in all other concoctions. Your hypothesis would be egg x will peel easier than egg y and z and so forth all cooled by certain ways.Your control would be a store bought egg. There is actually a chemical in feed given to chickens that caused the whites to separate from the shell that free range chickens do not get as long as they aren't fed commercial food. Its all over my head. He's in sixth grade and this is a ten page, PowerPoint presentation with slides and demonstrations. I made a volcano. Interesting...I did not know that about store bought eggs. How would you quantify the results? It seems like the results would be subjective and not quantifiable, unless there is some way to measure the amount of pressure required to peel the egg. I'm a geologist, so I'm all about volcanoes!
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Post by kevin1 on Nov 1, 2014 18:41:18 GMT -5
The ease of peeling a hard boiled egg is mainly dependant on the age of the egg. Eggs at the supermarket can be up to six months old(the max allowed by law). Those promotions stores do where they give you a free dozen eggs with a $10 purchase are a sham, they're giving them away because they've reached their six month shelf date, the store either has to give them away or throw them away. The way to determine the age of an egg is to place them into water. If the egg lies on its side on the bottom, the air cell within is small and it's very fresh. If the egg stands up and bobs on the bottom, the air cell is larger and it isn't quite as fresh. If the egg floats on the surface, it should be discarded.
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Post by esshup on Nov 1, 2014 23:19:39 GMT -5
How old does an egg have to be before it peels easily?
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Post by steve46511 on Nov 2, 2014 1:11:42 GMT -5
First.....there are no "six month old" eggs being LEGALLY sold in the US. LOL!! I had 400 layers and know well the regulations. BTW, if you read the facts in the beginning of the link provided below, your idea about "fresh" eggs from the store may change. Pay special notice to the "Assuming the eggs were packaged the day they were laid" part along WITH the other info. Few, REAL few are put in the carton the same day. The layer farmer has 30 days to put them in a carton. "Best used" is another 45. The date on the CARTON is , unless indicated otherwise, the day they went in the carton....nothing else. There are many methods online for peeling fresh hard boiled eggs. Most even work. LOL The biggest mistake some make is to refrigerate boiled eggs, not yet peeled. Some say there is a way around this and you can peel them once refrigerated (very long). I have found no dependable way and peel them still slightly warm. Shells are porous and eggs will dehydrated left in the frig. They even do this to a point fresh but not like when they have been boiled. The "dent" in the side of the white of an older hard boiled egg is from the dehydration of the white and air getting in to replace the created space before they were used. That same "dent" is why the above mentioned "floating" of eggs works. But it has to have a proportionally LARGE air bubble in there to float, aka REALLY old. I've doubts on legality of selling such. Dates ON a package PROVE nothing, no offense. Humans ARE involved. This method works for me, but I have found cracking the egg with a spoon before it goes in the ice water, and peeling while the egg is still warm to the touch works a bit better BUT, as said, Older (maybe a month) ones do peel easier regardless. I've boiled eggs they day they came out of the chicken on occasion but still, WOW are there a lot of ways online to do so. Look and find the one works for you. YMMV as in all things. FWIW, even as lax as regulations may seem. You CAN safely eat 3 month old eggs. SIX months......I would hesitate (NOT EAT) though. "Best used by" is NOT an "expiration date", not even close for eggs, IMO. MUCH depends, as always as well, on the care of those eggs up to that point. God Bless www.instructables.com/id/Making-hard-boiled-eggs-with-FRESH-eggs/
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Post by steve46511 on Nov 2, 2014 1:50:08 GMT -5
A short addition. I have to laugh about it now simply because I will NOT try what Mom did around Easter. It was COMMON for our "Easter Eggs", after colored and "kid found" to SIT in a bowl on the table.......till all were eaten and there were a LOT of eggs!! The amount is easy for me to remember because of WHO took a dollar down the road to pick up a buck's worth of eggs @ 15 cents a dozen. ME. ( I got to keep the change. A dime) NO refrigerator needed. Hmmmmmmmm.. Maybe Mom knew something I didn't? Nobody died or got sick. Peeled slicker than goose grease too!! I remember when I got married and wife No. 1 went to put the hard boiled eggs in the frig. I was beside myself with laughter (that did NOT bode well.....aka EX wife No.1. ) asking WHY in the WORLD would you put hard boiled eggs in the frig? ? The thought of eating a COLD hard boiled egg sounded rather gross to me at the time. Please keep in mind that "old" eggs being easier to boil and peel is something handed down the generations. What a FRESH egg was to THEM.......is NOT what we buy in the store. "Month old eggs" that I used above was my mom's preference. That is .........**Month old from day laid**, aka the last day they could be put in a carton to be sold these days. By OUR definition of what fresh eggs are, Mom ALWAYS boiled fresh eggs. This all brings back the laughter and good times of one particular trip when Mom and I went together. I rode the bike back and forth on that old dirt road instead of walking next to Mom. My reward for being such a "rotten kid" was mom "whaling" (Mom's terminology) eggs at me when I peddled past. That's a memory I had not brought back to mind for many years. God Bless for assisting in doing that gang.
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Post by schall53 on Nov 2, 2014 8:22:00 GMT -5
Steve, the secret to not refrigerating eggs is to not wash them, they have a protective covering on them when they come out of the chicken. When I was down at Purdue my roommate Lived on a huge egg farm in Michigan. He brought down a case of fresh eggs. I asked him where he thought we were going to keep them. He responded in the pantry which we did. They tasted just as good a month layer as they did the first day. I didn't know how long after that they would have kept.
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Post by esshup on Nov 2, 2014 8:22:15 GMT -5
Steve:
The reason why I asked is that I get my eggs from the next door neighbor. They have chickens and generate 1/2 dz to a dz eggs per day. I don't know the breed of chicken, but the shells are brown, brown with dark brown spots or blue/green.
A few friends and I were talking and I got an itch to make some pickled eggs. So, it's either fight peeling the neighbors eggs or buy some from the store.
Well, after reading that link, lets see how well that works. Seems pretty easy.
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Post by kevin1 on Nov 2, 2014 10:25:33 GMT -5
First.....there are no "six month old" eggs being LEGALLY sold in the US. LOL!! I didn't say that they were selling them, only that they can legally keep them under refrigeration and sell them to that point. After further researching, however, I cannot verify this, so I'll retract the comment.
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