gc39
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Post by gc39 on Oct 21, 2014 14:00:25 GMT -5
Buddy was hunting a week ago. Shot a doe around 4. She fell within 35 yes of him. He notched tag and drug her under his tree but didn't put it on her. He climbed back up to resume hunting and co came in threatened to write him misdemeanor and take all of his stuff because tag wasn't on deer. Even though it was ten feet from him. I was under assumption tag did not have to be on unless transporting in motorized vehicle and have been told by other co that as long as tag is notched you can drag thru woods without it on a deer what's everyone else been told
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Oct 21, 2014 14:11:55 GMT -5
I wouldn't want to second guess they're decisions or interpretation of the statue, nor do I believe that your buddy was necessarily in the wrong. But, if he was already out of the stand, had the tag out and notched, why not go ahead and affix it to save the hassle.
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Oct 21, 2014 14:21:39 GMT -5
You can also try submitting your question to the "Ask a Conservation Officer" forum. Morrison is very knowledgeable and answers your questions relatively quick.
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Post by boonechaser on Oct 21, 2014 14:29:53 GMT -5
It's called a transportation tag??? I have a lifetime license so not sure, but I do not tag deer untill I get deer back to vehicle mainly because more time's than not you will pull tag out while dragging deer back to vehicle. Some states do require animal to be tagged immediately upon recovery, but i did not think indiana did so??
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Post by jjas on Oct 21, 2014 14:33:14 GMT -5
According to this years Indiana Hunting/Trapping Guide........
Deer Tagging and Checking
Immediately upon killing a deer, the hunter must complete a temporary tag on paper that states the hunter’s name, address, sex of the deer, license number (if applicable) of the individual who took the deer, and the day and month of the kill. A hunter is not required to place the tag on the deer while dragging it out of the field as long as the hunter has filled out and is carrying the required information. A hunter must maintain immediate custody of and visual contact with the deer carcass unless the completed temporary transportation tag is attached. The tag must be attached to the deer before the hunter leaves the deer or loads the deer in a vehicle.
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Post by boonechaser on Oct 21, 2014 14:42:55 GMT -5
There you go. Guess I need to put pen and paper in my backpack now. I hunt about 95% of the time on my own property and never carry my lisence on me and normally wouldn't tag a deer untill I got it back to house. Look's like i've broke alot of laws through the year's. Nothing is easy anymore.
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Post by jjas on Oct 21, 2014 15:09:20 GMT -5
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Oct 21, 2014 15:26:14 GMT -5
Immediate custody and visual contact was maintained. He must not of had temp transport tag filled out and in his pocket. Dumb rule.
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Post by featherduster on Oct 21, 2014 15:35:20 GMT -5
According to this years Indiana Hunting/Trapping Guide........ Deer Tagging and Checking Immediately upon killing a deer, the hunter must complete a temporary tag on paper that states the hunter’s name, address, sex of the deer, license number (if applicable) of the individual who took the deer, and the day and month of the kill. A hunter is not required to place the tag on the deer while dragging it out of the field as long as the hunter has filled out and is carrying the required information. A hunter must maintain immediate custody of and visual contact with the deer carcass unless the completed temporary transportation tag is attached. The tag must be attached to the deer before the hunter leaves the deer or loads the deer in a vehicle. End of story.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 21, 2014 15:57:25 GMT -5
According to this years Indiana Hunting/Trapping Guide........ Deer Tagging and Checking Immediately upon killing a deer, the hunter must complete a temporary tag on paper that states the hunter’s name, address, sex of the deer, license number (if applicable) of the individual who took the deer, and the day and month of the kill. A hunter is not required to place the tag on the deer while dragging it out of the field as long as the hunter has filled out and is carrying the required information. A hunter must maintain immediate custody of and visual contact with the deer carcass unless the completed temporary transportation tag is attached. The tag must be attached to the deer before the hunter leaves the deer or loads the deer in a vehicle. I'm thinking it has been this way for at least the last 5 or 6 years. It used to be that the tag had to be on the deer on the drag out too. They changed that as paper can get torn and lost real easy on a drag through the woods. Not being there I can't make a judgement, but if your friend had the notched the tag in his pocker and the doe was right there he was in compliance. If one kills a deer and has to leave it and go get help- tag it before leaving it. That makes it legal.
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Post by greghopper on Oct 21, 2014 16:23:45 GMT -5
not sure how you "notch a tag" now days with the paper lic.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 21, 2014 16:35:22 GMT -5
not sure how you "notch a tag" now days with the paper lic. They changed the appearance. The old temporary tag on the net looked like the old tags we got from Walmart..
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Post by steve46511 on Oct 21, 2014 17:20:32 GMT -5
not sure how you "notch a tag" now days with the paper lic. The new transportation tag in the link above is ok but I saved the old PDF file of the old style shown below. If anyone would prefer to use the old style and would like the pdf file, PM me your email address. I click the "sign" option when the pdf is open on the top right of the pdf, then "add text" and type in the info needed and even create a "_____________ Confirmation number" in a blank spot on it for later and just add what county I hunt in and phone number through the "add text" option too.......and print. Once this info is added you can save it as another pdf named whatever you would like for other years. Every since having a LTL and using paper tags I've carried cheap baggies ($1 at Dollar General) rolled up with twist ties around them or pull "zip" type fasteners electricians use and upon a kill I mark it ( I like the old kind in case my pen comes up missing) with my knife or broadhead, stick it in the plastic baggie, zip it shut and attach to a leg or antler. A buddy carries duct tape and REALLY attaches his!! LOL I am in agreement with most. The CO was either misinformed or just messing with the guy. The deer was legal since close by and tag was marked, attached or not. A citation doesn't ALWAYS automatically mean a fine will apply. COs are human too, let us not expect them all to know every newer rule automatically, even though I'm POSITIVE all are informed of them. We all make errors even in our jobs. I personally don't expect the CO to automatically know everything but they do have any info just a call away if they are in doubt. This is still the tag type I use and have saved in a PDF and it's only 208 KB so I'm sure it is email-able. The info ON the tag clearly says when it must be attached as well. God Bless
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Oct 21, 2014 17:22:24 GMT -5
According to this years Indiana Hunting/Trapping Guide........ Deer Tagging and Checking Immediately upon killing a deer, the hunter must complete a temporary tag on paper that states the hunter’s name, address, sex of the deer, license number (if applicable) of the individual who took the deer, and the day and month of the kill. A hunter is not required to place the tag on the deer while dragging it out of the field as long as the hunter has filled out and is carrying the required information. A hunter must maintain immediate custody of and visual contact with the deer carcass unless the completed temporary transportation tag is attached. The tag must be attached to the deer before the hunter leaves the deer or loads the deer in a vehicle. I'd say that about sums it up!
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Post by esshup on Oct 21, 2014 19:30:26 GMT -5
According to this years Indiana Hunting/Trapping Guide........ Deer Tagging and Checking Immediately upon killing a deer, the hunter must complete a temporary tag on paper that states the hunter’s name, address, sex of the deer, license number (if applicable) of the individual who took the deer, and the day and month of the kill. A hunter is not required to place the tag on the deer while dragging it out of the field as long as the hunter has filled out and is carrying the required information. A hunter must maintain immediate custody of and visual contact with the deer carcass unless the completed temporary transportation tag is attached. The tag must be attached to the deer before the hunter leaves the deer or loads the deer in a vehicle. End of story. I'll either print out the one on the website, or put that info on a piece of mylar/tyvek paper (USPS envelope cut into strips) and fill it out while I'm in the stand waiting to track down the deer. I have a lifetime license. I've never had a problem with it coming off while dragging the deer out. I'll either make a slit in the ear and thread the tag on a ziptie and affix it so it's inside the ear, or make a cut between the achilles tendon and the bone and ziptie it on there. Yeah, they might get dirty or bloody, but never had one come off, especially using the mylar or tyvek paper from the USPS envelopes. I'll use a sharpie to write on the paper so it's waterproof. Now with the new electronic check-in, I'll call and check it in as soon as I get cell signal and complete the process. No questions that way.
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Oct 21, 2014 21:35:56 GMT -5
Good idea!
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Post by johnc911 on Oct 21, 2014 22:25:44 GMT -5
So how does this work for a guy that kills a doe sees her drop 50 yards away and keeps hunting hoping a buck comes by ?? he would never get down and tag the doe would he ? I read on here all the time of guys doing that
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Post by trapperdave on Oct 22, 2014 6:12:39 GMT -5
as long as they fill out a harvest tag while they are waiting on bucky...all is legal
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Oct 22, 2014 6:18:54 GMT -5
Just check the doe in on the phone and then you have no issues.
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Post by swilk on Oct 22, 2014 7:34:51 GMT -5
as long as they fill out a harvest tag while they are waiting on bucky...all is legal They would need to confirm she was in fact dead ... I guess call in a veterinarian if there is any doubt. And that still wouldnt be "Immediate". "Immediately upon kill" .... another poor choice of wording in our rules and regulations.
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