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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 2, 2014 15:05:00 GMT -5
Since more is covered than just the .243 and up rifles I'm starting a new thread.. Check out the new proposals here: www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/2362.htmComments? Thanks Cedar Thicket for keeping us up to date.. . |
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Post by 10point on Sept 2, 2014 15:33:23 GMT -5
Oh my ward, guns in the urban zone through the end of January. My first thought is we will not have any deer left in Tippecanoe County.
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Post by cedarthicket on Sept 2, 2014 15:39:12 GMT -5
For the full text (not summary) of the proposed changes please go to: www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw-DNR_General_FW_Proposed_Rules.pdfPublic CommentsA public hearing has not yet been scheduled. More information will be available at a later date regarding the submission of comments and the public hearing(s). The rule language will be presented to the Natural Resources Commission for preliminary adoption at their meeting on September 16, 2014. Public comments cannot be submitted to the Natural Resources Commission for this rule package at this time. We will let you know once the public comment period starts. For questions or for more information, send an email to dfwinput@dnr.IN.gov |
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Post by shouldernuke on Sept 2, 2014 15:52:52 GMT -5
I really don't see any real issues with any of the proposals there is some needed clarifications here as well and adjustments .There are too many loose ends and birds and small game animals needing help to grow in numbers in our state .So that looks ok .And is not the Deer reduction areas / aka urban zones in fact areas that need reduced to almost no animals because its city or heavily populated areas . On a side note about the reduction zones I see in the future the doing away with county bonus limits and the insertion of a county that needs reductions of deer herds to say for a year or two being made a "REDUCTION" zone .Its a quick way to kill high numbers then back off as needed without rule and limit wrangling .
It is what it is I guess .I like the rifle rules however .And the fact that stands get set on public land later is ok as well it does away with hunters sectioning off large areas by setting multiple stands .
I suspect that with the youth in an A county language we will likely see more reductions maybe down to A counties in the near future since there is only a single A county I don't think they would just address this for one county after all these years .JMHO antlerless tag Reductions are coming to counties near you that are not Reductions zones and Reduction zones are the wave of the future rather than county wide bonus county limits .
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 2, 2014 16:23:35 GMT -5
Actually there are two "A" counties this year.
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Post by shouldernuke on Sept 2, 2014 16:26:21 GMT -5
Actually there are two "A" counties this year. Yes thats true after a look as stated I expect more in the future. |
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Sept 2, 2014 17:24:04 GMT -5
I think the proposal to outlaw hog hunting with dogs would be a poor decision. They want to reserve that privilege for the DNR and USDA.. I say what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Why would the average Joe with hog dogs push hogs any more than when the state does it? If it does push hogs out of the area, shouldn't landowners have that right?
Hog hunting is already illegal on all public lands in Indiana. I'm afraid the DNR is trying to gradually ban all hog hunting, even on private property. I've spoken to the local biologist several times, as he is the one on the front line right now of trapping and killing hogs, and he has basically said that they would like to eliminate hog hunting.
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Post by span870 on Sept 2, 2014 17:33:33 GMT -5
They want to eliminate hog hunting by the public to stop the importation of hogs. Same way several states did it and they have seen a decrease of hog numbers. Outlaw hog hunting and no need for guys to release hogs.
I see they amended the law concerning running and training pens for rabbits but doesn't say what the amendment is.
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 2, 2014 17:33:53 GMT -5
I am not a fan of opening the door to 30-30's and such but it won't affect how I choose to bow hunt anyways. I just fear it being the beginning of rifle guys getting their way and having it open up to all calibers...hopefully I'm wrong. I am not outraged at all by any of these things....I am confused as well on the hog thing but again no worries where I am or what/how I choose to hunt.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Sept 2, 2014 17:39:06 GMT -5
They want to eliminate hog hunting by the public to stop the importation of hogs. Same way several states did it and they have seen a decrease of hog numbers. Outlaw hog hunting and no need for guys to release hogs. What states were those? I don't know of any states that have outlawed hog hunting, or anywhere that overall hog numbers have decreased. As far as importation, the hogs in my neck of the woods were brought in 30+ years ago. They are here, they are established. The government will never eradicate them. |
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Post by tynimiller on Sept 2, 2014 17:40:05 GMT -5
Wait, perhaps I need to ammend my previous statement....correct me if I'm wrong but if the new proposal passes a .243, .257, .270 or 30-06 will all be okay to use in Indiana? I'm sorry if so I'm 100% against this as I don't see it necessary at all....if they do that is fine but there had better be a density population rating which makes some counties deemed not safe (similar to Michigan)....I just don't get it. I've rarely gun due to love of bow hunting and even when I have I've never taken a shot over 60 yards nor have I had to. Just not needed in my opinion. A modern rifled slug barrel or muzzleloader can launch a bullet plenty far enough.
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Post by throbak on Sept 2, 2014 17:58:58 GMT -5
You saw what I saw Tyn as long as it meet the minimum case length and 243 Cal. its legal I don't like it either and that's not up for debate as far as I am concerned so there's two 100% against
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Post by span870 on Sept 2, 2014 18:01:12 GMT -5
Tenessee it is now illegal to hunt hogs on anything but private ground. I'd have to look but I believe Oklahoma was another state that did away unless on private ground. I have heard more than my share of stories around Lawrence and Washington counties of hogs being trapped on one property and moved to another. Is it true??? The government will not eradicate them because all landowners don't want them gone. There is a big lease in Leesville that has out feeders and only kills the boars. I've seen the pictures of the hogs around his feeders and some of the kills he makes every year. You want the hogs gone. Close hunting and allow DNR approved hunters access to all properties with hogs along with bait and night vision.
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Post by strangeworth on Sept 2, 2014 18:26:33 GMT -5
"reducing the bullet size required to .243 and eliminating the maximum rifle cartridge case length. " I'm for it 100%!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 18:39:08 GMT -5
Did I miss something? What's with all the hog hunting stuff? I've never seen a wild hog in Indiana and have never talked to anyone who has? Is this like the badger and the porcupine? Why am I so behind on these critters???
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Post by mkfrench on Sept 2, 2014 18:42:07 GMT -5
I'm not opposed to or for the addition of rifles (.243 or bigger) for deer. Guess I'd lean towards being against if I had to choose. What I do like about the proposed changes is what I am sure it's doing to another "nameless" indiana hunting forum. I'm sure they have went apesh-- over this. Wish I could log on to that site and antagonize them and listen to their absurd reasons for opposing anything but their own preferences. Unfortunately tho I've been banned:(
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Post by firstwd on Sept 2, 2014 18:45:11 GMT -5
Did I miss something? What's with all the hog hunting stuff? I've never seen a wild hog in Indiana and have never talked to anyone who has? Is this like the badger and the porcupine? Why am I so behind on these critters??? Southwest Indiana. I've seen trail camera pictures of them as far north as northwest Jackson County, a couple miles south of the feeder creek to Monroe Reservoir. |
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Post by firstwd on Sept 2, 2014 18:46:54 GMT -5
I'm not opposed to or for the addition of rifles (.243 or bigger) for deer. Guess I'd lean towards being against if I had to choose. What I do like about the proposed changes is what I am sure it's doing to another "nameless" indiana hunting forum. I'm sure they have went apesh-- over this. Wish I could log on to that site and antagonize them and listen to their absurd reasons for opposing anything but their own preferences. Unfortunately tho I've been banned:( It's generally best to leave playground bullies to themselves. |
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Sept 2, 2014 18:56:49 GMT -5
Tenessee it is now illegal to hunt hogs on anything but private ground. I'd have to look but I believe Oklahoma was another state that did away unless on private ground. I have heard more than my share of stories around Lawrence and Washington counties of hogs being trapped on one property and moved to another. Is it true??? The government will not eradicate them because all landowners don't want them gone. There is a big lease in Leesville that has out feeders and only kills the boars. I've seen the pictures of the hogs around his feeders and some of the kills he makes every year. You want the hogs gone. Close hunting and allow DNR approved hunters access to all properties with hogs along with bait and night vision. Lots of the properties in that area are leased; I wouldn't be surprised if many people let sows and piglets walk in order to shoot more boars. As far as relocation, the COs patrol these areas fairly heavily, especially at night. I am checked regularly while out hunting, and always talk hogs with the CO. The biologist has also pulled samples on hogs I've killed, and we talked relocation a little bit. I've never gotten the impression that this was still happening, but that doesn't mean it isn't. You are right that many people do not want them gone.. But I don't think banning hunting and allowing the state to move in on private property is the solution. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 18:57:37 GMT -5
I'm not opposed to or for the addition of rifles (.243 or bigger) for deer. Guess I'd lean towards being against if I had to choose. What I do like about the proposed changes is what I am sure it's doing to another "nameless" indiana hunting forum. I'm sure they have went apesh-- over this. Wish I could log on to that site and antagonize them and listen to their absurd reasons for opposing anything but their own preferences. Unfortunately tho I've been banned:( I quit posting there long ago, but I do sneak in once in a while to take a peak. Oh, are they in a tizzy over this!!! "Slob this"..."Joe Sixpack that"..."buying guns the day before season and sitting out the next day with a case of beer and calling it hunting...blah blah blah"...same old tired song. It is a good reminder why I don't hang around there any more. |
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