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Post by drs on Jul 22, 2014 4:27:23 GMT -5
[a href="  "]link [/a] Still holding on as of yesterday.[/quote] Looking at the photo of your Doe, my attention is drawn to that area, of her body, which seems to be bulged. I am inclined to think that if she was going to give birth, it should have been by now. It might be a dead fawn for some reason her body is unable to rid, or once again a tumor, or an intestinal blockage. Does she seem to act normal, as to browsing?? |
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Jul 22, 2014 7:20:09 GMT -5
I've been seeing newborn fawns regularly the last couple of weeks at work. I bet she drops in a week or 2.
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Post by drs on Jul 22, 2014 8:08:57 GMT -5
I've been seeing newborn fawns regularly the last couple of weeks at work. I bet she drops in a week or 2. In all my years, living in Indiana & here in Central KY; I've never seen a fawn born this late in the year. They are fairly good size by now and straying further away from their Mom, and browsing. Even if a fawn was born this late, they most likely wouldn't make it through the winter if said winter happen to be a cold and snowy one. Not much time for them to accumulate much body fat or even grow their winter coat. |
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Post by windingwinds on Jul 22, 2014 12:58:36 GMT -5
Before birth the area by the hips sink in. This can happen a few hours or a few days before birth. If she was a ewe (we breed painted desert sheep) she would now be in a seperate area and I would watch for udder development. Which this doe does have some udder showing in the pictures. I will post pictures again next week if she stays around.
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Post by drs on Jul 22, 2014 13:53:08 GMT -5
Before birth the area by the hips sink in. This can happen a few hours or a few days before birth. If she was a ewe (we breed painted desert sheep) she would now be in a seperate area and I would watch for udder development. Which this doe does have some udder showing in the pictures. I will post pictures again next week if she stays around. I e-mailed my Brother-in-law, who is a Vet. in Northern Indiana, and he said that it could be she has a narrow intestinal passage, which could be a blockage, but just a wild guess, and without examining the Doe, it would only be a guess at best. Also he has never heard of wild Deer giving birth this late in the year, in Indiana. Normally birth happens no later than Mid-June. Keep us informed if she stays around your place.  |
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Post by ridgerunner on Jul 26, 2014 6:44:46 GMT -5
I wouldn't say this is a pregnant doe without more evidence..it would be highly unusual for a doe to still be carrying this time of year. Is this a Midwestern deer?
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Post by windingwinds on Jul 27, 2014 19:53:38 GMT -5
Well doe went thin, and I have a couple fawn pictures. Hard to say if who it belong to at this point. [a href="  "]link[/a] |
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Post by windingwinds on Jul 27, 2014 19:55:35 GMT -5
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Post by saltydog on Jul 27, 2014 21:07:42 GMT -5
WW I have a doe I've been watching in my urban zone, pulled the card fri and had to reset it today to see if she has popped yet. I will update again next week when I pull the card .Here is the latest pic of her.  |
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Post by drs on Jul 28, 2014 4:35:49 GMT -5
Well doe went thin, and I have a couple fawn pictures. Hard to say if who it belong to at this point. [a href=" "]link [/a][/quote] I don't think the photo of your fawn was dropped by the photo of the Doe in question. For one thing it's (fawn) is too large to be a new born. Most likely the fawn belongs to another Doe in your area. Looks healthy though. |
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Post by ridgerunner on Jul 28, 2014 4:39:55 GMT -5
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This fawn is way over a week old..The pregnant doe pics you posted were on July 20th....this fawn is at least 6-8weeks old probably older. |
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Post by windingwinds on Jul 28, 2014 12:19:25 GMT -5
Which is why I said hard to say whom the fawn belongs to, if you have seen all my game camera pictures then you would know that there is another doe that hangs out with a young buck. But the fawn on 7-22 could be young, I can't tell when they are that close to camera. The second fawn not going to guess, but it's not in danger of loosing it's spots anytime soon. I'm sure I will keep getting pictures. Saltydog, look forward to seeing pictures soon.
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Post by drs on Jul 29, 2014 4:39:28 GMT -5
windingwinds, have you seen that Doe (the one you have a photo of) recently? I've examined both photos of the fawn and I agree with ridgerunner. That particular fawn is over 6 to 8 weeks old, it is even browsing.
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Post by shouldernuke on Jul 29, 2014 5:24:48 GMT -5
windingwinds, have you seen that Doe (the one you have a photo of) recently? I've examined both photos of the fawn and I agree with ridgerunner. That particular fawn is over 6 to 8 weeks old, it is even browsing. Agreed here as well .Those fawns /fawn is/are a couple of months old likely and very healthy . The big "IF" and fact here is that if the doe was still carrying a fawn and had it the fawn would not be walking more than just a few feet to feed and then it would bed almost immediately until the next feeding thats how they survive after birth.So for about 3-4 weeks they are locked in the same 30 or 40 yard area they BTW are supposedly scent free for a week or so after birth . |
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Post by bigjim on Jul 29, 2014 22:09:51 GMT -5
windingwinds, have you seen that Doe (the one you have a photo of) recently? I've examined both photos of the fawn and I agree with ridgerunner. That particular fawn is over 6 to 8 weeks old, it is even browsing. Agreed here as well .Those fawns /fawn is/are a couple of months old likely and very healthy . The big "IF" and fact here is that if the doe was still carrying a fawn and had it the fawn would not be walking more than just a few feet to feed and then it would bed almost immediately until the next feeding thats how they survive after birth.So for about 3-4 weeks they are locked in the same 30 or 40 yard area they BTW are supposedly scent free for a week or so after birth . Correct. And this is why every year there are posts from early june til early july of people saying they are not seeing any fawns and wondering if the winter made the does absorb, coyotes or all the usual qwestions of why people are not seeing fawns. Lo and behold middle of july they show up. Real simple they, as said, lay huddled in the cover for a month or so |
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Post by drs on Jul 30, 2014 4:44:53 GMT -5
Let see, we have the following information concerning the Doe in question:
1. We have pictured ONE Whitetail Doe, who appears to have a late pregnancy, her age unknown.
2. No newly born Fawns seen around, that appear to be < one month old. But other healthy fawns seen about.
3. Photos of the Doe, show considerable swelling in the lower intestinal area suggesting an tumor or blockage either caused by disease/disorder or a genetic defect.
4. <Guessing> that the Doe hasn't been seen recently??
Any other Deferential Diagnoses??
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Post by featherduster on Jul 30, 2014 5:10:55 GMT -5
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Post by drs on Jul 30, 2014 5:20:29 GMT -5
TYPICAL RESPONSE  |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 30, 2014 7:41:01 GMT -5
Suggestion...
Why do we hot wait until the OP posts other pictures that MAY determine if the doe was indeed pregnant or not. IOW - Let's stop the speculation until more is known.
Thanks,
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 30, 2014 16:09:18 GMT -5
A picture that Marty sent me. I'll let him fill in the details....  . |
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