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Post by firstwd on Jan 23, 2014 11:06:34 GMT -5
I believe it would if they came with an "annual registration sticker" for about $5. The annual sticker would continue the PR money for each hunter. That would benefit the DNR on both ends.
I also believe every visitor to all DNR properties should be required to purchase a hunting or fishing license. I realize antihunters will cry foul, but that is a two fold money maker and an annual access permit all in one.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 23, 2014 11:15:30 GMT -5
I believe it would if they came with an "annual registration sticker" for about $5. The annual sticker would continue the PR money for each hunter. That would benefit the DNR on both ends. I also believe every visitor to all DNR properties should be required to purchase a hunting or fishing license. I realize antihunters will cry foul, but that is a two fold money maker and an annual access permit all in one. Rob, I'm not so sure that Indiana is not getting PR funds for LTL holders right now... That number would get lower each year as some of us oldsters head for the happy hunting ground - where no license is needed.  |
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Post by cedarthicket on Jan 23, 2014 12:40:15 GMT -5
I believe it would if they came with an "annual registration sticker" for about $5. The annual sticker would continue the PR money for each hunter. That would benefit the DNR on both ends. I also believe every visitor to all DNR properties should be required to purchase a hunting or fishing license. I realize antihunters will cry foul, but that is a two fold money maker and an annual access permit all in one. I do not agree with any kind of annual "hunting registration sticker" for lifetime hunting license holders. Included in our "contract" when we purchased the lifetime license was that no type of additional state hunting license fees would be assessed. (We still need to purchase the appropriate federal migratory waterfowl stamps.) Regarding everyone visiting a DNR fish and wildlife area is something else. Perhaps a requirement to purchase a daily or annual use permit should apply. I would personally favor an exemption for only those who have a CURRENT hunting or fishing license (annual or lifetime). I personally look at the issue of visitors to the fish and wildlife areas as being quite analogous to state park visitors. They could be handled in much the same way, with a daily or annual visitor pass. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 23, 2014 13:28:38 GMT -5
I believe it would if they came with an "annual registration sticker" for about $5. The annual sticker would continue the PR money for each hunter. That would benefit the DNR on both ends. I also believe every visitor to all DNR properties should be required to purchase a hunting or fishing license. I realize antihunters will cry foul, but that is a two fold money maker and an annual access permit all in one. Rob, I'm not so sure that Indiana is not getting PR funds for LTL holders right now... That number would get lower each year as some of us oldsters head for the happy hunting ground - where no license is needed. I checked with the DNR and they said - |
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Post by firstwd on Jan 23, 2014 14:43:27 GMT -5
Cedarthicket, I've heard before the argument of "it's not in our contract". What boggles my mind is the guys who say that and then turn around and complain about the DNR and how bad of a job they do. Especially when something about the cost of a Big Mac and fries could actually help the issue.
If you read what I wrote, I said nothing about charging current LTL holders anything. Basically because of "I've paid my money" guys. I said for new lifetime license sales they could add the annual registration.
Woody, I know they have the sliding scale thing, I'm just not sure how close to accurate that is.
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Post by airborne on Jan 23, 2014 15:54:15 GMT -5
I understood the original question to be about quotas not prices. I think the antlerless quotas should be lowered.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 23, 2014 16:01:28 GMT -5
Cedarthicket, I've heard before the argument of "it's not in our contract". What boggles my mind is the guys who say that and then turn around and complain about the DNR and how bad of a job they do. Especially when something about the cost of a Big Mac and fries could actually help the issue. If you read what I wrote, I said nothing about charging current LTL holders anything. Basically because of "I've paid my money" guys. I said for new lifetime license sales they could add the annual registration. Woody, I know they have the sliding scale thing, I'm just not sure how close to accurate that is. It is as accurate as the Feds will allow them to be.. |
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Post by airborne on Jan 23, 2014 18:24:34 GMT -5
I to have a lifetime license and would not like to have to pay a fee now. I could also claim landowner. To swilk: there is no such thing as a landowner license.
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Post by swilk on Jan 23, 2014 19:53:54 GMT -5
Uummm..... thanks for telling me something I already know?
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Post by firstwd on Jan 23, 2014 20:21:40 GMT -5
I to have a lifetime license and would not like to have to pay a fee now. I could also claim landowner. To swilk: there is no such thing as a landowner license. I never said you should. |
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Post by duff on Jan 24, 2014 5:50:28 GMT -5
The user fee for using state land could be administered like launch stickers. Not all state land has a gate or ability to catch people for day passes. I don't like forcing hunting fishing licenses on people that don't but not opposed to the idea of user fees for hikers, bikers, picnickers, hunters fishermen, etc.....
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Post by greghopper on Jan 24, 2014 6:43:15 GMT -5
I said for new lifetime license sales they could add the annual registration. That would be a HARD sell at best...IMO...But at least they would know up front!!! |
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Post by airborne on Jan 24, 2014 7:59:39 GMT -5
Sorry swilk. Didn't mean to offend. Your question was Why would anyone buy a landowner license not "How" could anyone buy one so I was mistaken. Sorry again.
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Post by firstwd on Jan 24, 2014 10:53:16 GMT -5
I said for new lifetime license sales they could add the annual registration. That would be a HARD sell at best...IMO...But at least they would know up front!!! With as many people that I've heard wishing they could get a lifetime license I wouldn't think it would be a hard sell at all. Maybe I need to do a poll.... |
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Post by greghopper on Jan 24, 2014 11:05:44 GMT -5
You may want to think about prices!!!
I would guess at least $2500 for comp hunting lic
$4500 for hunting& fishing combo
Then a yearly fee of some sort
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Post by swilk on Jan 24, 2014 11:06:11 GMT -5
Lots of guys want a lifetime licence. Lots of guys want a Ferrari.
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Post by throbak on Jan 24, 2014 13:40:16 GMT -5
Swilk; for every Licence The DNR gets I THINK 30 Dollars back In federal funds to help Manage wild life and fund the DNR so as a landowner we could help the DNR get that funding with a low cost Landowner licence and it would help help keep of harvest info. I donate to a lot of causes and 5 dollar licence for a 30 dollar return to the DNR would be worth it to me I would buy it just to do my part and I have a lifetime.. a redundant reply but here it is again
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Post by swilk on Jan 24, 2014 13:50:09 GMT -5
I am all for funding causes .... but not sure I could/would get on board with that.
I paid $800 and something for my comprehensive hunting license and pay about $800 per year in property taxes on a piece of dirt that is used for nothing but hunting.
Restructure the tax system so that taxes on properties like mine, which is still zoned as AG but only used for recreation/hunting, go into the same pot the license fees go into.
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Post by tenring on Jan 24, 2014 13:53:26 GMT -5
$5.00 a year to validate "new" license, Life time is grand fathered in. Think Colorado !
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Post by swilk on Jan 24, 2014 13:54:30 GMT -5
I guess if it were a minimal fee (like the $5) it really woudlnt make any difference .... but the language would have to be iron clad and unchangeable that the amount could never, ever go up.
I would have to look at the DNR books before I can have any sympathy for someone asking for money. How do I know they really need it or not? Are they full of as much waste/fraud/abuse as every other govt body out there or do they actually run a lean program. Without knowing for sure my guess would be there is a lot of fat there somewhere.
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