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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 6, 2012 18:18:49 GMT -5
Gents,
We can have disagreements as to what deer hunting was, is now and what we think it should be. The fact that each of us do approach it differently is OK. We are only hunting to please one person – ourselves.
Some of us will eat, sleep, and breathe deer hunting 365 and 24/7. Others it is a casual pursuit and BOTH are OK as I said we are attempting to please only ourselves.
Do I miss the “good old days” when you could hunt anywhere just by asking? Yes, I do, but I do realize those days are gone forever. Like it or not. As a deer hunter I had to adapt, even if that meant paying money
Knowing Timex I can say with 100% certainty that he does not impose his type of hunting on anyone else. Like myself, he is 100% for as much hunting opportunity as the resource can handle. I know he did not want the gun season or MZ season shortened or moved during the Prop #1 fiasco. It had nothing to with his hunt clubs, he just didn’t want to see a loss of hunter opportunity. Yes, he runs a couple hunt clubs, but I doubt very seriously if he is even breaking even.
I do know that he is a generous man that opens up one of his leases to not only the youth on here for our Annual Youth Hunt, but also to some locals that really do not have a place of their own to hunting. Something he does not have to do,
In this thread we are approaching where we are getting way off topic and personal.
I'd appreciate it if we stay on topic..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2012 18:27:03 GMT -5
Two guys Thorbuk and tenring, this is directed to you. I'll bet any amount of money you want that I've made as much this year off of deer hunting as you have AND that I've put more guys into the woods this year than you have in the last 5 at affordable prices. You want the bet, send me a PM and I'll show you proof that you have no idea what I do and what I make off of hunting. I make my living working shift work at a chemical factory and have for the last 30 years. If it wasn't for giving away hunting I might be able to retire. You want to blame me for your lack of success, you really need to get a life, because I'm not the source of your problem. And your wrong if you think I'm working to alter your seasons or limits, hasn't happen and it won't. I could care less how you hunt or where or when. I do care how I do and people that hunt with me. Most any one of them have more value to the sport than what I see posted above. Nothing new, just two more guys whining about their lack of success. Success that doesn't come because of a lack of preparation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2012 18:28:53 GMT -5
Sorry for the rant. I shouldn't have even posted on Steve's post as I knew what it would bring ^^^^
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 6, 2012 20:02:23 GMT -5
Timex I for one just thank ya for clarifying your side like I asked...and I honestly do agree more with you than I originally thought i would. Woody also well said.
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Post by throbak on Dec 7, 2012 7:11:15 GMT -5
I don,t make a penny off of deer hunting... I am not complaining about my success... I haven,t killed a buck because I don,t want to not because I cant But the way deer hunting is going with the whole focus evolving around the Buck and the buck($$$) has and will ruin the sport for many a hunter and break up many a friendship
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Post by tenring on Dec 7, 2012 8:32:52 GMT -5
This^ with the exception that I took three does, a button buck, and a ten point buck during this years firearms season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2012 9:23:23 GMT -5
Sorry for the rant. I shouldn't have even posted on Steve's post as I knew what it would bring ^^^^ Don't be sorry Timex for your rant or post. You were just expressing your feelings on the topic. After all that's what discussion forums are all about. Lots of good topic here IF they don't get out-of -hand.  |
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 7, 2012 9:40:13 GMT -5
I really don't think Timex is saying there isn't any ill-affects of the so called "commercialized hunting world" or what the antler craze has done...he just firmly believes that it is simply intensifying the lines that separate those who desire to hunt above all else. Yes, it's easier with more money and you can have access to better land...but I'm a prime example. I've put in my time knocking on doors, writing letters and attempting to pick up whatever ground I can (still haven't had to pay though for a so called lease yet...but will if I have to). It's harder for sure, I don't think Timex would say it isn't...but guys he's also not the type of guy to throw in the towel because of the change in mindset of hunters he encounters or deals with in his area.
I feel for Steve, as I can only imagine how I'll feel in 30 some odd years and may or may not be limited to hunting public or working hard to afford a decent lease...would I like it as much, prolly not...but if the whitetail hunting fire in me is still lit as much as it is now I will most definitely do what I can to still be putting myself on stand well before light for the elusive mature whitetail buck if buck hunting or a fat doe if freezer filling.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2012 10:24:00 GMT -5
THE BUCK has always been the most presued of the species, since the caveman invented this hunting thing. It wont change anytime soon. And commercialized aspect is the reason deer hunting is stronger than ever. Look at small game in comparison, which is in better shape with more people taking part. You know the answer.
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Post by tenring on Dec 7, 2012 10:33:46 GMT -5
Like Quail, Ruffed Grouse, and Rabbit?
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Post by kevin1 on Dec 7, 2012 20:44:30 GMT -5
Shortening the season and moving it out of the most active period would be a serious mistake, hunter participation would drop as time afield is reduced. Given the amazing number of diversions available today it surprises me that hunting survives at all, take away the premium time to do it and the silence in the woods will be deafening. Every year I hear fewer and fewer shots fired, quit screwing with what has worked all along.
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 7, 2012 21:26:00 GMT -5
Shortening the season and moving it out of the most active period would be a serious mistake, hunter participation would drop as time afield is reduced. Given the amazing number of diversions available today it surprises me that hunting survives at all, take away the premium time to do it and the silence in the woods will be deafening. Every year I hear fewer and fewer shots fired, quit screwing with what has worked all along. I agree to stop screwing with it every year...but man I wish I hunted near where you live...fewer and fewer shots, I could only dream of that type of hunting pressure. It sounds like civil war the first two days of firearm season here...but that's the animal that is hunting and I simply embrace it and have learned to use the pressure to my advantage and almost embrace it. |
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