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Post by 76chevy on Jun 2, 2011 10:53:47 GMT -5
anybody have a complete list...I only know of one??
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Post by HuntMeister on Jun 3, 2011 6:59:21 GMT -5
anybody have a complete list...I only know of one?? I didn't know they were doing that in IL, what one do you know of? |
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Post by 76chevy on Jun 3, 2011 13:23:36 GMT -5
yes, not sure if it is a recent program or not??
Not much info of the IL DNR website.
here is all I know
Jim Edgar Panther Creek - State Fish & Wildlife Area
A notable aspect of JEPC’s hunting opportunities is its participation in the Department of Natural Resources Quality Deer Management Program. At JEPC and other IDNR sites designated as a Quality Deer Management Area, only antlerless deer or deer with a minimum of four points on one side may be taken during the archery and firearm deer seasons. The program protects 1- and 2-year-old bucks to provide future opportunities for harvesting trophy-size deer, while managing local herds through the taking of does and other antlerless deer.
the non resident deadline has passed for this year.
The hunter check station, which is located in a former farmhouse on County Highway 11, handles all hunting administrative functions. All hunters must register at the site office once per year and receive a free vehicle pass which allows hunters access to the site for the entire season.
A lottery drawing will be held at the JEPC site office to distribute non-resident archery deer permits for one week seasons starting the last week of October through the third week of November. Applications must be received by March 31st. The specific season dates are listed on the application.
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Post by mattfinney on Jun 3, 2011 14:24:08 GMT -5
Antler restrictions?.....either Hitler or the Devil must be involved.
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Post by tenring on Jun 3, 2011 17:28:22 GMT -5
That is the same attitude that many hunters in Colorado had a number of years back when antler restrictions were put it place. The moaning, groaning, whining and crying was rampant. After about 4 years, not a peep was heard. Patience is a virtue in more than one aspect. After all of the "that's how Ohio and Illinois does it", the condemnation of a rule rears it's ugly head. Jeez, will it never end?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2011 18:14:47 GMT -5
I see this as just one way of limiting the number of hunters that will use this WMA, which in turns shows that it obvious with most public hunting areas, that you need some way of managing the harvest from these areas. Most all of the WMAs have good number of decent bucks including the huge Shawnee N. F. On the Shawnee, any buck is legal, but pressure is regulated by access problems with private lands and points to enter. Another reason that most of the WMAs have good hunting is that the NR hunters generally do not shoot bucks with less than 4 points on one side, which helps even though most NR's hunt private land.
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Post by HuntMeister on Jun 3, 2011 20:38:10 GMT -5
Thanks for the details! yes, not sure if it is a recent program or not??
Not much info of the IL DNR website.
here is all I knowJim Edgar Panther Creek - State Fish & Wildlife Area A notable aspect of JEPC’s hunting opportunities is its participation in the Department of Natural Resources Quality Deer Management Program. At JEPC and other IDNR sites designated as a Quality Deer Management Area, only antlerless deer or deer with a minimum of four points on one side may be taken during the archery and firearm deer seasons. The program protects 1- and 2-year-old bucks to provide future opportunities for harvesting trophy-size deer, while managing local herds through the taking of does and other antlerless deer. the non resident deadline has passed for this year.The hunter check station, which is located in a former farmhouse on County Highway 11, handles all hunting administrative functions. All hunters must register at the site office once per year and receive a free vehicle pass which allows hunters access to the site for the entire season. A lottery drawing will be held at the JEPC site office to distribute non-resident archery deer permits for one week seasons starting the last week of October through the third week of November. Applications must be received by March 31st. The specific season dates are listed on the application. |
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Post by mattfinney on Jun 3, 2011 20:41:09 GMT -5
I'm 100% in favor of antler restrictions and archery-only areas. I would like to see archery-only and/or antler restrictions on about 20 - 30 thousand acres of our FWA's. That would still leave over 100 thousand acres of FWA property, as well as the hundreds of thousands of state and national forests, for people to make every attempt to kill 'em all. It seems like a fair number to me. We could divide some of our FWA's into sections that are archery-only, this would further address the issue Woody brought up of displacing hunters.
I would not like to see statewide antler restrictions, I would never suggest placing any antler restriction on youth, and I would not like to see antler restrictions on all of our public ground.
I agree, people that care nothing about antlers, shouldn't be restricted on antler size (points), but there should also be public hunting areas for hunters that want to chase older bucks that grow those gigantic antlers. Illinois understands this, Kentucky gets it, Missouri gets it....why not Indiana?
We can do better.
I'm only suggesting a very small portion.
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Post by 76chevy on Jun 3, 2011 22:31:05 GMT -5
when antler restrictions came out in PA, something like 35% of people supported them NOW...a few years later....
around 75% do!!!need to check an old issue of field and stream for exact data ;D I'm 100% in favor of antler restrictions and archery-only areas. I would like to see archery-only and/or antler restrictions on about 20 - 30 thousand acres of our FWA's. That would still leave over 100 thousand acres of FWA property, as well as the hundreds of thousands of state and national forests, for people to make every attempt to kill 'em all. It seems like a fair number to me. We could divide some of our FWA's into sections that are archery-only, this would further address the issue Woody brought up of displacing hunters. I would not like to see statewide antler restrictions, I would never suggest placing any antler restriction on youth, and I would not like to see antler restrictions on all of our public ground. I agree, people that care nothing about antlers, shouldn't be restricted on antler size (points), but there should also be public hunting areas for hunters that want to chase older bucks that grow those gigantic antlers. Illinois understands this, Kentucky gets it, Missouri gets it....why not Indiana? We can do better. I'm only suggesting a very small portion. |
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Post by hornharvester on Jun 4, 2011 5:26:45 GMT -5
Who wants antler restrictions?  ?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2011 7:01:56 GMT -5
15" inside spread makes more sense than a point restriction. The object is merely to protect 1 age class of deer with each, so they will not improve quality in big bunches as Matt hopes. The OBR does the same thing in moderation, it's just not enough for some. BTW-If you look on Louisville Craigslist, there is a guy that is offering DEER HUNTING LESSONS for $50, might help out those that can't get what they want in the woods now? louisville.craigslist.org/spo/2400964459.html |
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Post by mattfinney on Jun 4, 2011 7:02:05 GMT -5
Nice buck hornharvester.
That's the reason I prefer the 15-inch-outside-spread restrictions, like in Kentucky, as opposed to the 4-points-on-one-side type.
It would be insane to restrict anyone from shooting that buck.
I've seen tons of yearling bucks with 4 points on one side, but very few yearlings will make 15 inches outside.
I really don't see how someone could support size limits on fish, but be totally opposed to similar restrictions on whitetails.
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Post by mattfinney on Jun 4, 2011 7:13:39 GMT -5
BTW, that's got to be one of the best 3x3's out there. You know how it ranks by chance?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2011 7:15:17 GMT -5
First off, there aren't any limits on fish that restrict you to just one. If you wanted a size limit on bucks, why put in the OBR? Is hope and change not working for you?
How much have you hunted any size restricted WMA, and which one did you hunt? Just curious what you killed there and how much better than a non-restricted area? I've hunted several of them in Ky. and already know the answer but look forward to hearing about your experience.
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Post by huntingman on Jun 4, 2011 7:49:36 GMT -5
Antler restrictions dont help. All the bucks that fit the restrictions get killed. Then the bucks with inferior genetics get left to breed. In WA it the same way with the 3pt min. All the giant 2 pointers run around spreading genetics while the bucks that should be doin the breeding get shot.
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Post by hornharvester on Jun 4, 2011 7:50:23 GMT -5
BTW, that's got to be one of the best 3x3's out there. You know how it ranks by chance? Matt, I did not kill the buck and copied the picture link off the net. I used the picture to show what you couldn't shoot if antler restrictions were in place. This buck was from another state but I don't know which one and scored 146 or 147. h.h. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2011 7:55:46 GMT -5
Here's a 6 pointer.....hunter unknown?  |
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Post by mattfinney on Jun 4, 2011 11:01:12 GMT -5
I don't like point-based antler restriction, and I would NEVER suggest that. 15-inch outside spread would protect (I'm guessing) over 95% of yearling bucks. That would be the only age group I would want protected, and only in very select FWA's.
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Post by greghopper on Jun 4, 2011 12:09:09 GMT -5
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Post by hornharvester on Jun 4, 2011 13:38:22 GMT -5
What happens if you kill a 14 15/16" buck? Will the DNR issue rulers? h.h.
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