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Post by bow2011 on Mar 10, 2011 23:57:51 GMT -5
my dad has a remington 30-06, its older than me and he never had a problem out of it, i like the bolt action better and i have used my dads rilfe and it go one.
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Post by randolphcounty on Mar 11, 2011 22:24:19 GMT -5
I am not an expert rifle shot..... but I have been shooting rifles for most of my 45 years, can usually hit what I aim at....... I can not tell a difference in the accuracy level of a bolt gun and my uncles semi...... now, I am not saying that there isn't one, I am just saying as another post said, at my level...I can not see it......
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Post by steiny on Mar 13, 2011 15:20:36 GMT -5
Hornharvester nailed it.
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Post by hookeye on Sept 18, 2011 22:39:07 GMT -5
Pump:
Early pump Remington 760's did not have a free floating barrel. 7600's do (and maybe some 760's, dunno when they switched to free float). They can be quite accurate in both non free float and free float models, but the best chance of getting a shooter is to go with a free float model. The problem then is the trigger (non adjustable in stock form).
There may be issues with handloading (small base dies needed?)
Auto:
Non free float barrel. Gas block is welded to barrel and can cause major impact shift from first shot (cold barrel) to warm (and they get hot quick).
I had a minty 742 carbine that shot with a warm barrel, old factory 180gr ammo, under 2" and not from the best bags either. Plenty good enough!
EXCEPT that the first shot (cold barrel) was 8" higher than the warm barrel group.
Yup, she warped after first shot.
Did this repeatably.
Now here's the rub..............if using iron sights then the shift is followed when you align the sights. The "walk" won't be noticed.
But when you have a sighting system that doesn't use the moving barrel (a scope) you're screwed.
Same problem with many Mini 14 Ranch rifles.
Sucked my minty 742 carbine would do that, traded it at shop I bought it from. Probably why it was minty (cold to warm barrel impact difference too great).
My 2nd 742 was a full length model, which should have made the problem worse. But it didn't have the problem (welded block must have had minimal stress). It too shot factoy ammo around 2" at 100 yds. Cold one right in there with the warm ones.
So..................742 and 7400's can be problematic, seen it.
7600's a safer bet on having a shooter. Some people cant work the pump very well though, not hard to learn.
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Post by hankhunter on Oct 3, 2011 6:44:45 GMT -5
I had the rem in 30-06 that was a good rifle. It killed a lot of woodchucks but I wouldn't use it for shooting for money. I have read a lot of good stuff on the Browning auto also. The older Rem's maybe a little better than the Cerberus Rem's. As the quality control has seemed to slip a little.
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Post by coyote6974 on Oct 8, 2011 20:46:09 GMT -5
I had a 7400 Remington in .243 a few years ago. It would shoot 100 grain factory ammo around two inches. It didn't really like lighter bullets as well, usually shooting them into 3.5 inch groups at 100 yards. The rifle never jammed or malfunctioned in the time I owned it.. It was an excellent deer and coyote rifle. I also agree that for the most part bolt action rifles are more accurate than semi auto rifles for the reasons mentioned. One can't argue with the top bench rest shooters who all use bolt action rifles. I think though in a hunting rifle some semi auto designs will shoot on par with most bolt action hunting rifles. I've found it very easy to get free floated AR 15 rifles to shoot on par or better than my factory built bolt actions. An example is my Colt M-4 carbine that will consistently hold .5 MOA out to 300 yards. My Remington and Winchester bolt action rifles will come close but none will consistently outshoot the Colt AR.
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