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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 16, 2009 9:05:08 GMT -5
Sure sounds like it needs some clarifying, doesn't it?
I've always been told "don't have a gun in the vehicle when shining... loaded or unloaded."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2009 9:16:34 GMT -5
CO's enforce the "law"....not what is in summarized in the hunting guide. When in doubt, look up the statute in the Ind. code:
IC 14-22-6-7 Jacklighting prohibited Sec. 7. (a) This section does not apply to an employee of the department or an employee of a federal wildlife management agency who: (1) is acting in the performance of the employee's duties; and (2) has received the express written consent of the director for the employee's action. (b) A person may not knowingly throw or cast the rays of any spotlight or other artificial light: (1) not required by law on a motor vehicle; and (2) in search of or upon any wild bird or wild animal; from a vehicle while the person possesses a firearm, bow, or crossbow, if by throwing or casting the rays a wild bird or wild animal could be killed. This subsection applies even though the animal is not killed, injured, shot at, or otherwise pursued. (c) A person may not take any wildlife, except furbearing mammals, with the aid of illumination of any spotlight, searchlight, or other artificial light. (d) A person may not shine a spotlight, searchlight, or other artificial light for the purpose of taking, attempting to take, or assisting another person to take a deer.
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Post by gobblerstopper on Dec 16, 2009 10:46:09 GMT -5
CO's enforce the "law"....not what is in summarized in the hunting guide. When in doubt, look up the statute in the Ind. Exactly. Most people read the Hunting Regs from cover to cover, but fail to read that little paragraph that says... "This is a summary of Indiana hunting and trapping regulations. It is designed as a service to sportsmen and women and is not intended to be a complete digest of all hunting and trapping regulations." I think the loaded part of the hunting guide is a typo.
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Post by lugnutz on Dec 16, 2009 13:27:07 GMT -5
I was told that it was "too much paperwork" to take the vehicles that poachers use. You wouldn't believe the computer work these guys have to do for every little thing now. Lots of red tape. Granted it may take a CO more time to complete the paperwork, or spend more time on the puter, but that is what they are paid to do. Seems to me someone is getting lazy.
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Post by Indyhunter on Dec 17, 2009 1:06:11 GMT -5
CO's enforce the "law"....not what is in summarized in the hunting guide. When in doubt, look up the statute in the Ind. Exactly. Most people read the Hunting Regs from cover to cover, but fail to read that little paragraph that says... "This is a summary of Indiana hunting and trapping regulations. It is designed as a service to sportsmen and women and is not intended to be a complete digest of all hunting and trapping regulations." I think the loaded part of the hunting guide is a typo. I do get what you guys are saying. But....it says "summary", which implies the guide does not contain every detail of every hunting law in Indiana. That does not mean is information is incorrect. That publication is pretty clear of the "summary" of that law and most other general regulations. There isn't much in those paragraphs in my opinion, that leaves any of us guessing as to what it means, or what the definition of any particular word might be. I've seen those same words in there before, that is not a typo. If the annual Hunting Guide cannot be taken as accurate in what it prints, then none of us should be looking at that guide to determine season dates, number of antlerless per county allowed, type of weapons allowed, tagging regulations etc. We should all be going to the library and spending hours looking at the actual detailed laws. I guess my point is that there are certain regulations that are slightly more than a grey area and might require the code to get a true interpretation, and I bet the Code doesn't clear many of those up. (If you haven't read the actual code book then give it a try, it is more confusing than the Chinese alphabet). But overall the hunting guide is accurate although a summary of what we are to follow. And if the summary does not make it clear, then consult the Indiana Code. No where in the yearly hunting regulation book does it say 'this information may be incorrect and therefore not applicable'.
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Post by smokeeater on Dec 17, 2009 2:01:20 GMT -5
What becomes of seized property? Hope it gets auctioned off to purchase necessities for the CO's to help do their jobs more efficiently.
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Post by turkeyscout on Dec 17, 2009 8:05:19 GMT -5
Exactly. Most people read the Hunting Regs from cover to cover, but fail to read that little paragraph that says... "This is a summary of Indiana hunting and trapping regulations. It is designed as a service to sportsmen and women and is not intended to be a complete digest of all hunting and trapping regulations." I think the loaded part of the hunting guide is a typo. I do get what you guys are saying. But....it says "summary", which implies the guide does not contain every detail of every hunting law in Indiana. That does not mean is information is incorrect. That publication is pretty clear of the "summary" of that law and most other general regulations. There isn't much in those paragraphs in my opinion, that leaves any of us guessing as to what it means, or what the definition of any particular word might be. I've seen those same words in there before, that is not a typo. If the annual Hunting Guide cannot be taken as accurate in what it prints, then none of us should be looking at that guide to determine season dates, number of antlerless per county allowed, type of weapons allowed, tagging regulations etc. We should all be going to the library and spending hours looking at the actual detailed laws. I guess my point is that there are certain regulations that are slightly more than a grey area and might require the code to get a true interpretation, and I bet the Code doesn't clear many of those up. (If you haven't read the actual code book then give it a try, it is more confusing than the Chinese alphabet). But overall the hunting guide is accurate although a summary of what we are to follow. And if the summary does not make it clear, then consult the Indiana Code. No where in the yearly hunting regulation book does it say 'this information may be incorrect and therefore not applicable'. .............. ................ HEY INDYHUNTER, I HEARD next year the 2011 hunting guide will be history, the state will save $200,000.00 BUCKS... so keep your old copy for future reference and happy holidays ole buddy!!!!!!!....... .......turkey scout
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 17, 2009 8:08:54 GMT -5
I do get what you guys are saying. But....it says "summary", which implies the guide does not contain every detail of every hunting law in Indiana. That does not mean is information is incorrect. That publication is pretty clear of the "summary" of that law and most other general regulations. There isn't much in those paragraphs in my opinion, that leaves any of us guessing as to what it means, or what the definition of any particular word might be. I've seen those same words in there before, that is not a typo. If the annual Hunting Guide cannot be taken as accurate in what it prints, then none of us should be looking at that guide to determine season dates, number of antlerless per county allowed, type of weapons allowed, tagging regulations etc. We should all be going to the library and spending hours looking at the actual detailed laws. I guess my point is that there are certain regulations that are slightly more than a grey area and might require the code to get a true interpretation, and I bet the Code doesn't clear many of those up. (If you haven't read the actual code book then give it a try, it is more confusing than the Chinese alphabet). But overall the hunting guide is accurate although a summary of what we are to follow. And if the summary does not make it clear, then consult the Indiana Code. No where in the yearly hunting regulation book does it say 'this information may be incorrect and therefore not applicable'. .............. ................ HEY INDYHUNTER, I HEARD next year the 2011 hunting guide will be history, the state will save $200,000.00 BUCKS... so keep your old copy for future reference and happy holidays ole buddy!!!!!!!....... .......turkey scout It will be online and printable from there.
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