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Post by daworz on Nov 29, 2007 9:47:31 GMT -5
OBR= Some swear by it and Some hate it, I guess we will just have to live bye it, This State want to become a trophy state so bad, and increase the out of state hunters that spend that almighty dollar. I think it will remain OBR, and all the fighting we do or say is'nt going to change it. We need to except it and work on sticking together, for other fights?
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Post by johnc911 on Nov 29, 2007 10:09:35 GMT -5
Does not work in my area not enough hunting pressure. There has always been big bucks its just a matter of finding them.
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Post by West28 on Nov 29, 2007 13:36:02 GMT -5
It has not affected me personally at all, but most of my buddies all took nice bucks this year!
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Post by deerpreacher on Nov 29, 2007 15:39:31 GMT -5
I like the OBR for the sake of seeing more bucks, but there is one major draw back and that is hunters are less likely to take out the cull bucks. This is going to have a negitive effect on the quality of bucks in the future, because of back genes being passed on.
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Post by ridgerunner on Nov 29, 2007 15:46:43 GMT -5
I shot a nice 13pt'r Sunday/Tuesday. EHD has played a big role here in west central Indiana. There are many varibales that effect deer herds it's almost ridiculous to say " I ain't seeing any more big bucks, OBR isn't working" It's slightly more complex than that. OBR works! My taxidermist in Parke County says he's had more big deer checked in this year than any other in 35years and he handles hundreds of deer each season, but that Parke, Vermillion, Vigo, Fountain counties area. I can only speak from what were seeing here in West Central Indiana.
Some guys aren't gonna see big bucks no matter what based on their lack of experience, preparation, knowledge and woodsmanship. They seem to be the ones who cry the loudest.
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Post by tomthreetoes on Nov 29, 2007 15:48:34 GMT -5
Buck sightings have been way down for us here in the south western part due mostly I think to the EHD outbreak and the full moon we've had for the last several days. Deer hunting is fun for me till I kill one then the works starts so I've become a trophy hunter regardless of the OBR!
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Post by hoosieroutdoorsman on Nov 29, 2007 15:51:13 GMT -5
The OBR is ok and has done a somewhat decent job but the other regulations surrounding it are the biggest contributers to its less than robust affect on the states herd. The OBR alone can`t do the entire job,,there needs to be more regulations and less honor system management.
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Post by beehunter on Nov 29, 2007 16:44:51 GMT -5
I have seen a boat laod of small deer this season but no biguns.. Personally I think the one buck rule will only hurt us blue collar guys in the long run, after the outfitters come in and lease everything up.
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Post by freedomhunter on Nov 29, 2007 18:01:20 GMT -5
This year has been a good one for number of bucks in my area. No ehd to speak of. That being said, most of the mature bucks have been nocturnal, we do see them at night. Blame a trickle rut for that, not like last year when I saw several during daylight cruising in early November when it was hot and heavy. OBR continues to increase the number of bucks, whether you see the big dogs depends on your area, the rut, weather, hunting tactics, etc. I know my taxidermist has seen a big change.
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Post by ithunter on Nov 30, 2007 8:04:53 GMT -5
We currently need all the restrictions we can get i dont think some hunters are giving two flips about the herd...doe or buck wise. conservation is in the best interest of all hunters.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Nov 30, 2007 10:47:07 GMT -5
There's a difference between Conservation and Restrictions.
Like I said, OBR doesn't affect me one way or another, but RESTRICTIONS can, and often are, over used - to the detriment of hunter recruitment/retention.
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Post by mbogo on Nov 30, 2007 18:06:08 GMT -5
I've seen a lot fewer bucks, especially big bucks this year and in 2004 but that doesn't prove that the OBR isn't working. I saw more bucks and more big bucks in 2003 and 2005 but that doesn't prove that the OBR is working. Those are simply observations, meaningless without context. Some reason and critical thinking is needed to add context, otherwise they are nothing more than fodder to support beliefs. It comes down to whether you would rather believe or think. Me, I only believe in one thing without question and the OBR is not it. Bud, I hope you didn't let it bother you too much, since they do what they accuse you of.
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Post by joen on Nov 30, 2007 18:08:03 GMT -5
I have seen more and bigger bucks but were will all us blue coller guys and there gals hunt when all the land is leased up?
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Post by meecedb on Nov 30, 2007 20:05:57 GMT -5
What do you folks think? Isn't this year 5 or 6 of the OBR? Shouldnt we have an influx of huge 4,5 or 6 year old buck deer killed this year? Why don't we beat that dead horse again, again,again
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Post by parkerbow on Nov 30, 2007 20:20:01 GMT -5
alot of buds knocked down 3.5 y/o bucks this year......but the vast majority of my buds quit shooting immature bucks 10 years ago.......on my friends 117 acres in switzerland county ALL surrounding landowners quit shooting immature bucks at least 10 years ago after getting into QDM[the reason i personally think is responsible for the mature bucks].On my cousins 84 acres in Jefferson county i seen 4 bucks that were at least 3.5 y/o.weird thing is i hadnt seen a shooter buck on this land since 2003. That right there is what I keep saying, OBR only helps on private land such as this post. It does wonders for these guys, but on public, shoot them all lands it is meaningless
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Post by splash on Nov 30, 2007 20:40:21 GMT -5
It's done me in...I put part of the blame for the increase in Leasing and the higher costs of hunting on the precieved, whether it is real or not is totally up to your own belief, notion that the OBR has made the buck hunting better...
The real truth is in the numbers shown at the check stations...they show little to no statistical change over the last 5 years when compaired to the trends set in the prior twenty years.
That tells you the OBR is a social political issue and not a mathmatical scientific issue...
As stated above "Why don't we beat that dead horse again, again,again"...chances are you've picked a side and you arn't going to change your mind unless something major and close to home MAKES you change it.
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Post by whiteoak on Dec 1, 2007 20:03:23 GMT -5
The OBR has done nothing in my area, as far as the size of the bucks I see. Lack of hunting areas has. Everything has been leased or sold. I have seen much larger deer in my area, but EHD has taken many of them. I'm not bashing leasing, I don't like it, but I do it.
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Post by hunterjosh8 on Dec 1, 2007 20:53:33 GMT -5
I dont think the OBR produces bigger and older bucks because people only shoot the big ones now.But it may produce more bucks
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Post by kevin1 on Dec 3, 2007 8:12:13 GMT -5
I haven't noticed any significant change in the number or size of the bucks in my area, what a total waste of time.
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Post by 30pointbuck on Dec 4, 2007 5:45:00 GMT -5
I think the 1 buck rule is great for everyone but me ;D, I should be allowed as many as I want . I m sure it works some but I live in Tippecanoe so I m allowed an urban buck, there is my bow buck and then a gun buck and military and state park hunts. I hunt different counties and other people abuse the whole system Not sure its working I have not seen anymore or any bigger bucks where I have been hunting. I think we should be allowed 1 buck and then earn a buck by taking 2 or 3 does. Everyone has different ideas and not really going to change someone Else's but we have obr so deal with it.
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