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Post by Old Ironsights on Oct 23, 2007 9:51:48 GMT -5
I don't think I need one. Its just more of the gadget stuff that hits the market every year. I guess thats why God gave me a neck so I could turn my head around and look whats coming up the trail. h.h.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Oct 23, 2007 9:58:29 GMT -5
I won't call it unethical but I will call it lazy, steiny said it best with his post.
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Post by jkd on Oct 23, 2007 13:22:59 GMT -5
IMO, both illegal and unethical... It's not "fair chase hunting" when technology removes the "fair" from the equation... when we get to the point where "hunting" resembles something out of Star Trek episode... "Captain, sensors report cervid movement in this quadrant...", it ceases to be hunting... By definition, a part of fair chase is spotting the game before it spots you, and this product provides the hunter an unfair advantage in that regard. Metamora - where do you get the "hunters can't use radios" rule... I see somebody post this about every year, and I've never seen any such reference in either the hunting guide or the IAC regs... not advocating radios one way or the other, just curious as to where this citation is located...
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Post by Hawkeye on Oct 23, 2007 14:00:27 GMT -5
I think that a lot of products are more of a gimmick to get the novices money,You know, like my son says the older he gets the smarter Iam.
As for being Ethical ,Well not for me to say,but seems to take away from the sport!
I just ask Why? a person needs all the gadgets just for killing a Deer.
It is not Rocket science,as some folks try to make it!
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Post by Sasquatch on Oct 23, 2007 14:21:28 GMT -5
Isn't trying to watch every direction at once part of the challenge?
I personally wouldn't want more equipment to worry about. Sometimes I think I cart around too much crap as it is!
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Post by savagehead on Oct 23, 2007 15:51:58 GMT -5
ethical?No. Indiana says it is legal to have a cell phone and or a 2-way radio to communicate.From one view point,this is not a bad idea.If someone is injured, it could literally be a life saver.On the other hand, that same phone and 2-way radio could serve as your scout, via your buddy(s).It boils down to what cloth you are cut from.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2007 15:54:02 GMT -5
Metamora - where do you get the "hunters can't use radios" rule... I see somebody post this about every year, and I've never seen any such reference in either the hunting guide or the IAC regs... not advocating radios one way or the other, just curious as to where this citation is located... You know what, I am going to have to research that. After I posted this I got to wondering if this applies to Indiana. I always thought it did, but I don't think I have seen it written down anywhere. I may be wrong. I thought it was illegal for two guys to use radios to track deer activity while hunting...in other words, "hey buddy, one just passed here and is headed right for you". I know that Babe Winkleman got a citation a few years ago for doing this up north somewhere he was hunting, but I don't know for sure about Indiana. Let's find out, it would be good to know one way or the other. Sorry for speaking out without being 100% sure.
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Post by hunter480 on Oct 23, 2007 16:14:46 GMT -5
Metamora - where do you get the "hunters can't use radios" rule... I see somebody post this about every year, and I've never seen any such reference in either the hunting guide or the IAC regs... not advocating radios one way or the other, just curious as to where this citation is located... You know what, I am going to have to research that. After I posted this I got to wondering if this applies to Indiana. I always thought it did, but I don't think I have seen it written down anywhere. I may be wrong. I thought it was illegal for two guys to use radios to track deer activity while hunting...in other words, "hey buddy, one just passed here and is headed right for you". I know that Babe Winkleman got a citation a few years ago for doing this up north somewhere he was hunting, but I don't know for sure about Indiana. Let's find out, it would be good to know one way or the other. Sorry for speaking out without being 100% sure. I`ve heard the CO say that 2-way radios are completely legal for deer hunting
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Post by Sasquatch on Oct 23, 2007 16:29:35 GMT -5
I hope radios are legal for deer hunting...... I know a C.O. that uses them!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2007 16:59:43 GMT -5
I know they are legal to have with you in the field...the thing is, I was under the impression that it wasn't legal to use them to tell someone else the location of game. As I said, I may be confused as to that part because of a little trouble that Babe Winkleman got into for using radios for that purpose a few years ago.
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Post by danf on Oct 23, 2007 19:45:29 GMT -5
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Post by stevein on Oct 24, 2007 19:13:40 GMT -5
I vote unethical. I am still waiting for the percussion cap to be perfected. ;D [glow=red,2,300]" The one that rubs me the worst is all of the deer hunting shows advertising the use of ATV's, bad Boy Buggies and the likes. Sheesh ! Doesn't anyone walk? "[/glow]They have to haul all that crap into the woods somehow. LOL Most of the hunting and fishing shows are just 1 big infomercial.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2007 21:37:24 GMT -5
ok say you were deaf in 1 ear and can not tell where the deer is coming from or completly deaf would you say this is unethical. i have hunted my whole life with 1 ear i,d use it in a heartbeat. try putting a ear plug in 1 ear for a while and see what i mean
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Post by bsutravis on Oct 25, 2007 13:31:44 GMT -5
Man.... at first glimpse I was all aboard the unethical crowd..... but is this really any different than a modern fishfinder? I know there's one in my boat. Interesting how we don't percieve the technology used in fishing as something bad, or unethical...but when the same technology moves into the woods than people cry foul. Is a trophy largemouth that a fisherman jigging with the aid of his sonar while it was suspended at 20' any different than a trophy whitetail that a hunter took off the deer run that he used this device on?
Again, at first glimpse it seems very unethical, but if you compare it to technology used in other types of outdoor recreation than it really isn't. That being said, it's not something I'm gonna go spend my money on.
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