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Post by TagTeamHunter on Jan 4, 2008 19:05:58 GMT -5
I wonder if a kid at his school bought a small pen knife by mistake if the student would have gotten such a deal. Isn't the school's policy "Zero Tolerance". Weather the guy was legally drunk or not it set a bad example. I saw the video and it was clear he was impaired. What kind of example is he setting for his students?
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Post by trapperdave on Jan 5, 2008 10:35:56 GMT -5
he blew .193 I believe I read. He is now on paid vacation. BS!!! He was WAY BEYOND DRUNK!
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Post by trapperdave on Jan 5, 2008 10:37:00 GMT -5
thats "suspended with pay"
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 5, 2008 11:01:56 GMT -5
By law or contract (forget which) they have no choice but to pay him during this time. After all the pub this has seen I'm figuring he's toast.
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Post by duff on Jan 5, 2008 16:03:18 GMT -5
Yep he is history, too bad he didn't get an arrest out of it too.
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Post by steiny on Jan 5, 2008 16:41:23 GMT -5
I take a different stance on this.
I think the cop did the right thing hauling his tail home. Nobody got hurt, and he got a drunk driver off the street. Cops should do more of this. The dumb thing was letting the media find out about this.
We don't need our legal systems tied up all the time with DUI's and dope arrests. Seems like it's nothing more than an income stream for the system, and we're not really putting a dent in the problem. The guy is probably a good guy ... why wreck his life over this?
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Post by duff on Jan 5, 2008 17:05:48 GMT -5
just because nobody was hurt doesn't make it right or exceusable.
We all make choices as to what and how we do things.
He made his choice, I am sure a taxi could have prevented all of this for him. Stupid choice and he will pay for it. Some bad choices cost a lot more then others.
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Post by weedhopper on Jan 5, 2008 18:44:52 GMT -5
I agree with Steiny. I also don't judge a man by his mistakes,,,,,rather by how well he learns from them.  |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 5, 2008 19:44:18 GMT -5
I don't think a person of high stature should get any breaks that the common Joe doesn't get.
I also don't think he should be punished any more severely than the common Joe.
If Joe wouldn't lose his job down at the factory for a DUI then the prinicipal should not lose his job at the school.
He made a mistake and let him pay for it with fines, probation, DUI school, whatever, but don't take away a man's living.
It's not like he is a hardened criminal.
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Post by coalbrnr on Jan 5, 2008 22:51:14 GMT -5
Do we want the LEO's to start exercising judgement to administer due punishment before our day in court also? The pendulum swings both ways. And Justice For All.
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Post by joen on Jan 6, 2008 7:53:44 GMT -5
I have had 2 friends on 2 different occaisiond killed by drunk drivers and I have no pity at all for a grown adult that gets a DUI. A young person under 25 maybe a little slack on 1st offence. When a person has lived past that and can see the news reports of all the harm a DUI can do to the innocent and they still do it I say get them for all they can.
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Post by steiny on Jan 6, 2008 9:26:23 GMT -5
Woody makes agood point some of the "hang em high" camp isn't seeing.
He shouldn't be punished any more than the average Joe.
I'll bet there are several on this forum that have been busted for DUI, and I'll bet nobody got their name all plastered over the TV news, publically humiliated, and / or lost their job.
We're talking about a guy that looks after kids all school year, not some horrible person.
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Post by joen on Jan 6, 2008 9:37:10 GMT -5
Thats the ticket let a drunk supervise the education of your kids.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 6, 2008 9:56:28 GMT -5
Woody makes agood point some of the "hang em high" camp isn't seeing. He shouldn't be punished any more than the average Joe. I'll bet there are several on this forum that have been busted for DUI, and I'll bet nobody got their name all plastered over the TV news, publically humiliated, and / or lost their job. We're talking about a guy that looks after kids all school year, not some horrible person. How many here you think would have got that free "RIDE" home?  Or even got to make that call to his "POLICE" freind????Dont be a PUBLIC figure...unless you want to be "publically humiliated"  |
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Post by trapperdave on Jan 6, 2008 10:12:29 GMT -5
AMEN!!!!!! I cant believe how many think he done no wrong! He was DRUNK, got pulled over(because he was obviously impaired) he then called the PO"S supervisor(a freind) to get the guy to release him. Obviuosly the PO was told to release him(against his own better judgement) so he released a tape of what happened.
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Post by danf on Jan 6, 2008 10:36:24 GMT -5
There's no "cut-and-dry" on "Joe" loosing his job if he gets pulled over... It depends on the internal policies of the place of work as well as what kind of work "Joe" might do.
While I don't want to find out, I think I'd have a hard time keeping my job if I got a DUI since completion of my job duties is dependant on driving. Driving isn't my primary duty, but if I can't get from the shop to the jobsite, the work can't get done. I used to work with a guy who was a foreman at another company who got a DUI. He kept his job but it was NOT convienient for anyone involved, plus it was a bigger company and people were able to be moved around for a while... Now, if "Joe" was working a machine at a factory where his job simply required him being able to get to work, he'd probably keep his job. Every employer is different and to compare one to another is like comparing apples to oranges- it just doesn't work!
Should the principal loose his job? My personal opinion is yes. He has set a bad precedent for the students he oversees- now they might think that since he got away with it they may be able to as well. Not to mention he's probably lost some respect with his staff. At a new school, a DUI conviction may not be such a bad thing, especially if some time is allowed.
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Post by dadfsr on Jan 6, 2008 12:39:00 GMT -5
Just found out that my daughter's ex-boyfriend (he's only 21)got stopped for his THIRD DUI this last week!!!! I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for anyone that is in a position of authority for getting drunk and trying to drive-what kind of example is that?!?!?!? Yes I know we all make mistakes but people that are in that authoritarian position are, and should, be held to a higher standard. If the so-called principle gets off with a slap on the wrist just what kind of example does that set for people like the ex-boyfriend???
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Post by huxbux on Jan 6, 2008 15:33:51 GMT -5
I haven't followed this story since I initially heard about it. If this guy was obviously drunk and if his BAC was as high as someone posted in this thread, then he most certainly should have been hauled off to jail. I still believe that an officers discretion was a good policy on borderline cases. Field sobriety tests are notoriously inaccurate and the mobile breath testers are inadmissible evidence in court for that very reason. Some very small people could conceivably be arrested for consuming 12 ounces of beer while dining out, which is going a little too far IMO. I'm quite sure that after this episode however, Fishers PD will no longer be following the discretionary policy.
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Post by duff on Jan 6, 2008 18:31:11 GMT -5
Do we want the LEO's to start exercising judgement to administer due punishment before our day in court also? The pendulum swings both ways. And Justice For All. What??? My buds that got pulled over and failed the field test then were taken to the real tester, failed and arrested. I believe everyone should be held to the same standards. Being arrested has nothing to do with the LEO exercising the punishment. Now his job is totally up to his boss just as it is for everyone of us. I work at a place where you have to report yourself if you get a speeding ticket or arrested for anything. They decide what to do after they find out. |
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Post by johnc911 on Jan 6, 2008 20:14:34 GMT -5
I guess my opinion is alot different. What ever happened to the good old days, when this happened all the time, they always took you home. The way i see it he has connections used them to his advantage and got away with it. He was taken off the street either way. Nothing wrong with using your connnections to help you out every now and then.
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Or even got to make that call to his "POLICE" freind????Dont be a PUBLIC figure...unless you want to be "publically humiliated" 
