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Post by 10point on Apr 13, 2007 8:59:23 GMT -5
My Son who will be 8 in a couple weeks should be able to hunt some this year. We are finishing up hunter ed this week. Didn't plan on doing this until just this week. If I had planned better I maybe could have got him out for youth turkey. He hasn't shot a shotgun yet and I am afraid we should probably wait until next year and I really don't have a gun ready for him. I will have him ready for squirrels with the .22 Should be exciting!
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Apr 13, 2007 9:04:28 GMT -5
that is great that you are getting your son out in the woods for a little excitement. I also think it is great that you are not going to try and rush him to get him out there in a couple weeks. They need time to get acclimated to things, especially feeling comfortable shooting a gun. Good luck to both of you.
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Post by swilk on Apr 13, 2007 9:18:36 GMT -5
yes, turkey loads through a shotgun would be a rough way to start.
.22 and bushytails is the way I started.
Cant wait until my girls are old enough to go with me ..... no guarantee they will want to but Im ready if/when they are.
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Post by 10point on Apr 13, 2007 9:20:46 GMT -5
I also think it is great that you are not going to try and rush him to get him out there in a couple weeks. I think I rushed it a little bit when I took him on a duck hunt at age 2. Wife was gone and I had no way of going unless I took him. She didn't know until she got home. ;D
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Post by midwesthunter on Apr 13, 2007 9:41:36 GMT -5
i never use a .22 for squirls in my opinion there to dangerous to be shooting in the air like that. a .410 works great for starters. we had a .22 bullet hit my car windshield once. not to say it was a squirl hunter but it was in season
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Post by Old Ironsights on Apr 13, 2007 10:38:24 GMT -5
i never use a .22 for squirls in my opinion there to dangerous to be shooting in the air like that. a .410 works great for starters. we had a .22 bullet hit my car windshield once. not to say it was a squirl hunter but it was in season I sort of agree. I stopped using .22 for squirrels a while back. Much prefer slow (really slow), quiet and heavy for squirrels. It's a handloading thing, but I really like using my super quiet (about as loud as a .177 pellet or .22CB) 500fps .38 loads out of my PCR. Bullet is in the dirt within 100yds at almost any angle you use - but is squirrel-head accurate at 25yds. At 100ftlbs energy, it also whacks 'coons and 'possums just fine. ;D
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Post by swilk on Apr 13, 2007 10:53:04 GMT -5
Terminal velocity.
Falling bullets are not dangerous at all. When a bullet is fired up into the air ..... by the time it falls back to earth is about as dangerous as pigeon crap.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Apr 13, 2007 11:02:49 GMT -5
Not exactly... but you knew that.
I also don't take limb shots where there isn't a good hunk of wood behingd the squirrel.
But, be that as it may, I still want a bullet with less velocity, less total altitude and less range than a .22 affords.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Apr 13, 2007 11:04:09 GMT -5
I agree on the .410 as his starter gun for squirrels. Makes it a bit easier for him to bag his first tree rat. Good luck.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Apr 13, 2007 11:06:33 GMT -5
I agree on the .410 as his starter gun for squirrels. Makes it a bit easier for him to bag his first tree rat. Good luck. There is that... I just don't like the pellets in my teeth...
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Post by swilk on Apr 13, 2007 11:06:44 GMT -5
If the pigeon was passing some undigested corn that just happens to weigh 150gr per piece and have the same ballistic coefficient .... they could be comparable.
Seriously .... maybe pigeon crap is a little more safe but a falling bullet isnt really all that dangerous.
I bet a .22 weighing about 1/5 as much as the bullet tested below would only develop 1/5 as much energy. About 6lbft.
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Post by swilk on Apr 13, 2007 11:08:19 GMT -5
I used a single shot .20 as my very first squirrel gun. Only lasted one year ..... dad soon realized I was shooting "at" squirrels instead of shooting squirrels.
Been using the 10/22 ever since .... except for a few years I thougth carrying a heavy 77/22 target seemed like a good idea.
I bought dad a Remington 522 a few years ago so he could shoot shorts. You know how hard it is to find a good .22 that shoots shorts?
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Post by bsutravis on Apr 13, 2007 13:33:16 GMT -5
Mythbusters had a great episode on terminal velocity... dealing with the old myth that a penny dropped from the Sears Tower will drive itself several feet into the sidewalk. They also shot rifle rounds straight up into the air, and checked their depth upon impact into a dry lake bed. I wouldn't want to get hit with a round falling at it's terminal velocity simply cause it will hurt, but it wouldn't be anything near fatal or even "dangerous".
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Apr 13, 2007 13:36:19 GMT -5
I agree on the .410 as his starter gun for squirrels. Makes it a bit easier for him to bag his first tree rat. Good luck. There is that... I just don't like the pellets in my teeth... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by duff on Apr 13, 2007 13:38:30 GMT -5
Great news. I am sure he is just as excited!!! Enjoy your time together.
It is amazing a simple post like this turn into someone telling someone else they are doing it wrong.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Apr 13, 2007 13:39:14 GMT -5
Just annoying to the neighbors. While not necessairly specifically dangerous, an Anti finding a bullet in thir birdbath can create quite a ruckus. I simply prefer to cut my losses.
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Post by 2dog on Apr 13, 2007 13:50:21 GMT -5
I agree with the 22 idea. The first gun I ever shot was my dads 12 gauge 870 Wingmaster at the age of 6. Dad had to hold the end of the barrel up for me. I shot it three times, first time it busted my lip, second shot got my nose bleeding and the 3rd shot I dropped the gun. I was gun shy of shotguns until I was about 12 or 13 because of that. I will never forget the look on moms face when I came back in the house with a bloody nose, busted lip, and smiling from ear to ear.
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Post by cambygsp on Apr 13, 2007 14:40:16 GMT -5
My son who is now 13 has been going hunting with me since he was 3 or 4 ? For the first several years he just tagged along, then he took hunters ed when he was 9 I think, ....he's ate up with it now. His first firearm was a single shot .410, he shot squirrels with it and then we converted it to a deer gun by having a gunsmith mount a red dot scope on it. He only used that gun one year and then he graduated to a 20 ga.
he loves his 20 ga , but I have been on him to start shooting a 12 ga but he don't show any interest, I think he is afraid of it as he has shot my 12 several times.
Your gonna love having a new hunting partner, I'm not even allowed to go hunting unless he is with me....so he says...lol
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Post by dbd870 on Apr 13, 2007 14:47:37 GMT -5
Congrats and have fun.
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Post by Decatur on Apr 13, 2007 16:02:13 GMT -5
It is amazing a simple post like this turn into someone telling someone else they are doing it wrong. I was thinking the same thing. Don't encourage a guy to take his son out hunting, instead, try to impose your hunting ideas on him. That's the worst thing about hunting and fishing, EVERYBODY thinks they are an expert at something. You could probably list 50 ways to catch a bass, and every one of them would work somewhere at some time, but there are always guys who say "That's not how you bass fish! You got to ...." I think we all have been guilty of this at one time or another. Just read the threads on this forum! Great job on getting your son involved in this wonderful sport! Good luck.
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