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Post by js2397 on Apr 12, 2007 9:06:24 GMT -5
Since there has been several hot discussions I thought I would start another.
High Fence Hunting
We live in a country that has a free enterprise system of economics. I do not think the government has the authority to make this illegal. I would say the alcohol, tobacco, and porn industries do things that are much more unethical than the owners of the high fence operations are doing.
Baiting
There is no difference between hunting over a bushel of apples under an apple tree or under an oak tree and no difference between hunting over 50 pounds of corn in a clover field or in a cut cornfield.
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Post by swilk on Apr 12, 2007 9:14:01 GMT -5
High Fence ..... if people had the common sense to make a minimum enclosure size all would be well.
In the extremes cases we have all most likely seen plastered all over the Internet ..... shooting a drugged deer inside of a few acre pen is not hunting. It is closer to going down to the stockyard and paying to slaughter your own cow.
Now, the King Ranch in Texas is on the other end of the spectrum. I would guess there are animals born and lived there their whole lives that have never seen a fence.
Both rank in with those things that .... even if legal I more than likely wouldnt participate.
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Post by drs on Apr 12, 2007 9:21:23 GMT -5
I am 100% AGAINST any type of High Fence Hunting or Baiting.
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Post by swilk on Apr 12, 2007 9:46:44 GMT -5
In just Indiana or nation wide?
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Post by tmarsh83 on Apr 12, 2007 10:24:14 GMT -5
Oh what the hell. Make it all legal I say. Its about oppurtunity. Personally, i think there should be something in the law that allows for boobytraps, or IEP's. It just isnt fair that sometimes the deer move when it isn't legal hunting hours. What the heck is that all about about anyway. Legal hunting hours? That cuts the oppurtunity to hunt deer by like 60% over the course of the day. That just isn't right and i'm not happy about the state telling me i can't hunt during those times. Allow me to use a IED, and I will be assured that ANY deer that comes through my area will be KILLED. Because that is my only focus, to KILL DEER!!! WOOOOO
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Post by js2397 on Apr 12, 2007 10:27:16 GMT -5
I think those things are too unsafe for hunting use. I also think that hunting at night would negatively impact the deer numbers so I could not support them.
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Post by swilk on Apr 12, 2007 10:29:22 GMT -5
lol, you are letting the mentality of some on this site get to you.
calm down .....
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Post by drs on Apr 12, 2007 10:38:35 GMT -5
In just Indiana or nation wide? EVERYWHERE!  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2007 10:38:39 GMT -5
Oh what the hell. Make it all legal I say. Its about oppurtunity. Personally, i think there should be something in the law that allows for boobytraps, or IEP's. It just isnt fair that sometimes the deer move when it isn't legal hunting hours. What the heck is that all about about anyway. Legal hunting hours? That cuts the oppurtunity to hunt deer by like 60% over the course of the day. That just isn't right and i'm not happy about the state telling me i can't hunt during those times. Allow me to use a IED, and I will be assured that ANY deer that comes through my area will be KILLED. Because that is my only focus, to KILL DEER!!! WOOOOO I agree....booby traps and IEP's should be legal choices, but they can't be because it would create an illegal situation any time more than one buck traveling together triggered the device. Dang the bad luck. Wilk, if you don't approve of the mentality of this site, why do you come here?? |
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Post by tmarsh83 on Apr 12, 2007 10:41:28 GMT -5
Well, if I am for the IEP, certainly, I am for replealing the OBR. Who is the state to tell me what I can do while deer killing? My only goal is to kill, and for that reason, I am not in favor of letting any governing body tell me how I can go about killing. It is all fair game!!!
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Post by swilk on Apr 12, 2007 10:42:02 GMT -5
who said I didnt approve?
same reason I like going to the zoo or the circus .... entertainment.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2007 10:45:46 GMT -5
Well, if I am for the IEP, certainly, I am for replealing the OBR. Who is the state to tell me what I can do while deer killing? My only goal is to kill, and for that reason, I am not in favor of letting any governing body tell me how I can go about killing. It is all fair game!!! I understand completely.....just going by your tag line on your profile (long llive the OBR)?  |
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Post by Woody Williams on Apr 12, 2007 10:55:55 GMT -5
Guys,
Discuss the issue and leave the silliness for kids, OK?
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Post by midwesthunter on Apr 12, 2007 11:04:46 GMT -5
O.K. here are my 2 cents, High fence hunting, personally i would never do it. But how many acres till its considered free ranging. if you think no amount of acres then they should make it illegal to hunt on islands because they can't leave them. I think high fence offers some bennifets to the hunting world. what if you lave to hunt but can't get out by yourself? now i'm not saying that go hunt a 30 acre pen. I live by a lot of deer farmers, them deer are raised in a pen from birth but you cant get within a 100 yards of them. i went to a high fence ranch in penn. down the road from relitives. talked to the owner, his pen was 85 acres. he showed me around and told me he bought this deer for $25,000 dollors and only time he see's it is at night. once in the pen they are still wild animals. now for baiting theres a huge diffrence than hunting over a pile of corn and hunting a corn field
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Post by js2397 on Apr 12, 2007 11:08:22 GMT -5
Suppose a combine spills a pile of corn maybe 50 or 100 pounds. What is the difference in huting beside that and hunting beside the same pile in a clover field?
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Post by tmarsh83 on Apr 12, 2007 11:09:45 GMT -5
Deer can swim. Polar bears have been spotted almost 20 miles from the nearest iceflow. Water isn't a fence. Its a challenge.
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Post by tmarsh83 on Apr 12, 2007 11:15:20 GMT -5
I'm not trying to be silly. I am trying to take some logic that I have seen expressed to the next logical step. Sorry if that ruffles feathers, but if the same is done to my line of thinking I see no "play nice" warnings.
The examples I have used are backed by the same logic that some people use to argue against laws that are in place. I am not being silly. I am exposing silly thought.
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Post by swilk on Apr 12, 2007 11:22:07 GMT -5
edited by swilk out of respect for H.H.
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Post by js2397 on Apr 12, 2007 11:36:41 GMT -5
Another example suppose you have a 10 acre corn field you mow it down and hunt you are legal. Take the same field harvest the corn bag it then take it back out the next week and spread it over the ground. That would be illegal.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Apr 12, 2007 11:47:37 GMT -5
Both are ok with me, "IF" they are used ethically & in a challenging manner. Baited barrel shoots just don't cut it with me.
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